“So, we were given a very profound role in the planet by nature and without our awareness of this role, we are misusing our power and in the sense creating this crisis.  But as I said, the crisis is good because it really provokes us to say there’s got to be another way, a different way of living with each other on this planet, and so we are moving into that awareness right now.”

Bruce Lipton, from Kindred interview below

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Listen to Bruce Lipton talk with Lisa Reagan and take Kindred readers through his foundational work presented in The Biology of Belief and Spontaneous Evolution and onward to his new book, The Honeymoon Effect” The Science of Creating Heaven on Earth in less than an hour! Bruce’s insights are fundamental to the New Story that Kindred explores.  Please download and share:

Editor’s Note: Bruce Lipton’s Kindred teleconference transcript below is broken into three parts and titled by sections to help the reader navigate the amazing amount of information and insights Bruce shares with us: Part 1: Evolution and World Current Events: “Right on Schedule”  Crisis Precipitates Evolution: “It is necessary that the world fall apart.” Humanity: The Emerging Superorganism The Honeymoon Effect: When Did You Last Feel It? Part 2: Creating and Uncreating Your Life = Conscious and Unconscious Mind The Unconscious Mind: Nobody’s Home, “It’s simply a record playback device.” Who Am I?  “In the first seven years people tell you who you are and you record in a state of hypnosis.” Part 3: The Honeymoon Effect: Operating from the Conscious Mind to Create Heaven on Earth The Move The Matrix: “It’s actually a documentary.” You Don’t Know If You Don’t Know: “If I don’t know how something works, how can I be guilty?” Women and Men: Cultural Programming Differences Reprogramming: “Reading self-help books doesn’t work.” Conscious Parenting: “The rule of the day to help us evolve from the mess we’re in.”

Part 1: Evolution and World Current Events: “Right on Schedule”

Lisa:  Welcome to Kindred’s teleconference with Bruce Lipton.  This is Lisa Reagan.  Today we’re talking with Bruce about his new book, The Honeymoon Effect: The Science of Creating Heaven on Earth.  This book says if we use the 50 trillion cells that live harmoniously in every healthy human body, as a model we can create not just honeymoon relationships for couples but also a super organism called humanity that can heal our planet.  Bruce is a stem cell biologist and the author of The Biology of Belief and Spontaneous Evolution.  He is also the recipient of the 2009 Goi Peace Award.  So welcome everyone and welcome Bruce!

Bruce:  Lisa, thank you so very much and I just so much appreciate this opportunity and appreciate everyone that’s tuned in because this is an opportunity to identify some new information that can help us move into the future, not survive but actually thrive.  And this is our destination.

Lisa:  That’s a wonderfully positive statement and I look forward to you taking us through The Biology of Belief and Spontaneous Evolution and The Honeymoon Effect in the next 20-30 minutes, so GO!  I’m kidding.

Bruce:  It’s only 700 pages here. (Laughs.)

Lisa:  I know you can do it. (Laughs.)  We had a lot of requests to make this call live.  It was just going to be you and I talking.  So, I know people are resonating with your work and up to speed on your message.  And, as I said before we started recording, we have a lot of questions that were emailed in that we’ll get to at the end.  But for now, I would like to hear what do you want us to know that is new?  And can you give us some context for what can we find in The Honeymoon Effect?

Bruce:  Well, first of all let’s just quickly look at the evolution question for a second because we are in the throws right now of an extraordinary evolutionary jumping off point that we’re facing right now.

When people look outside at the world, many people are obviously concerned and with the media support very fearful about what’s happening in the world.  And, I would just like to let people know that everything is right on schedule, that the events that we’re facing right now are part of an evolutionary upheaval, they should not be feared, they should be welcomed for a very simple reason, is that scientists recognize that we are deep into what is called the 6^th mass extinction of life on this planet.

Five times in the history of this planet, life was thriving and then something happened and life got wiped out and it started all over again from the bits and pieces that were left over.  The five previous mass extinctions have been attributed to things like comets or asteroids hitting the planet and destroying the environment, or just massive geological activity, like large numbers of volcanoes and earthquakes simultaneously shaking the crust of the earth and actually just undoing the web of life.

But the five previous ones are being joined by a current one, called the 6^th mass extinction of life.  Scientists recognize that this is in process by surveying the number of species that are disappearing from the planet.  We’re losing species, uh, organisms faster now than even in some of the previous mass extinctions.  So, we are changing the collagen that we becomes very important because scientists are trying to find out so what’s driving the 6^th mass extinction.  It turns out human behavior.  It says that we’re just so living out of harmony with each other and living out of harmony with the planet that we’re looking at the consequences of not really being supportive of the world in which we live and the world is beginning to fall apart.

Crisis Precipitates Evolution: “It is necessary that the world fall apart.”

Well, that’s necessary for a very simple reason is this:  Crisis precipitates evolution, meaning now if everything stays the same, everybody just goes on day by day just doing the same thing.  When you hit a crisis is when you have to say, okay we have to deal with something now and deal with it in a different way than we have been.  So, when we look at the crises that are facing us which range anywhere from economic to social to climate change, water issues are becoming big, all kinds of things are really challenging our survival on the planet.  And, this is a wake up call, it says in order to survive we must change the way we are living.

And, the significance about that really comes down to the fact that we really have underestimated who we are as a species on this planet, that we are profoundly instrumental in keeping balance, that nature has always tried to maintain balance, meaning that if one organism is introduced into the environment and it alters the environment to a degree, nature brings in another organism to try to balance it back out.

So, evolution has been a history of new organisms coming in, altering the balance, then provoking the appearance of another new organism that comes in, and on and on and on.  And every time a new organism is introduced, it’s more powerful in influencing the environment than the previous one.  So, we start off with bacteria were the first organisms introduced to the planet and then over time everything else showed up.  And, humans being near the end of this evolutionary spectrum have unknowingly been put in the situation to be very powerful controllers of the planet, controllers of balance.

And, the significance is if we’re totaling unaware of that, then we find ourselves in the condition today that we didn’t know that we were influencing the balance and yet we look around and see all the crises that are going on and we have to step back, as science has done, recognize that our behavior is doing this.  So, we were given a very profound role in the planet by nature and without our awareness of this role, we are misusing our power and in the sense creating this crisis.  But as I said, the crisis is good because it really provokes us to say there’s got to be another way, a different way of living with each other on this planet, and so we are moving into that awareness right now.

So, we were given a very profound role in the planet by nature and without our awareness of this role, we are misusing our power and in the sense creating this crisis.  But as I said, the crisis is good because it really provokes us to say there’s got to be another way, a different way of living with each other on this planet, and so we are moving into that awareness right now.

And, one more important thing about evolution is this.  Our conventional story of evolution, the Darwinian theory for example, reveals that over billions of years, one species has slowly changed and got to a point where it actually became a different species, and then that changed over time and led to another species.  So we have this large continuum of evolutionary changes, very slow, imperceptible, taking billions of years.

It turns out that that’s part of the evolutionary story, but it’s a totally incomplete story because there’s another understanding of evolution that science has missed and that is this:  Organisms are endowed with a certain amount of awareness and intelligence, and my work on cells revealed that the cell membrane, the skin of the cell, is the brain of the cell, and it also revealed very significantly that the surface area of membrane is directly proportional to intelligence.  The more surface area an organism has the more intelligence it is potentially expressing.  So when I went to look at it that way, I started to recognize something.

Most primitive organisms, bacteria, are little capsule-shaped cells with like an outer tough coating on it.  They’re almost like invertebrates with a shell on the outside.  And, the significance is that when bacteria tried to increase their membrane surface area, they can’t because there is a limitation of how much membrane you can put inside the capsule.  So, in evolution, bacteria were the first organisms, they appeared on the earth, all different variations started to appear, large numbers of species of bacteria, but that’s all they were, were bacteria.  And, the bacteria got more intelligent, at least they maximized their membrane and yet they reached a finite size, you can’t make them any bigger.  That’s it.

So, in a sense, if membrane surface area is intelligence, then evolution as gaining more intelligence would reach an endpoint with bacteria.  So that’s the smartest bacteria we can get because that’s all the membrane you can put in it.  Evolution took a twist.  It increased surface area, not by increasing the membrane of an individual cell; it increased surface area by bringing cells together and sharing their membrane surface area.  So, communities of cells arose.  So, the first level of evolution was the individual bacterium.

The next level of evolution was when bacteria got together and formed a community to share their awareness, and this community of bacteria evolved into a new life form called an amoeba.  The significance about amoebas, we see it as a single cell, but ultimately what it is derived from is a community of bacteria sharing their awareness.

Well, the same story repeats itself.  Now, the new organism, the amoeba starts manifesting itself on the earth, all new variations of amoebas, all thousands and thousands of different kinds show up, but guess what, the same issue arises.  An amoeba is a much bigger cell than a bacterium.  It’s got a thousand times more surface area, so right away an amoeba is a thousand times more capable in awareness than a single bacterium.  But then, guess what, the amoeba reached a finite size.  A cell can only get so big for a simple reason.  Think of a water balloon.  You can put so much water in the balloon and pass it around safely and the balloon’s cool, but if you put a little bit too much water in the balloon the skin of the balloon can’t hold it, it ruptures and the water leaks out.

Well, same story with amoebas.  They’re like balloons in a sense they have a membrane around them, cytoplasm inside.  They can reach a certain size but if they get bigger than that, the membrane ruptures because it can’t support it and then the cell dies.  So, guess what, just like the bacterium before, amoebas proliferated, reached a certain size and certain capability, and then were no longer able to get more intelligent because adding more membrane to an amoeba jeopardizes its life because it’s too big.  So evolution stopped yet again.

Humanity: The Emerging Super Organism

Now we have bacteria, communities of bacteria that then form amoebas.  Then we have amoebas, and then they form communities of amoebas sharing awareness and to give an example of a community of amoebas sharing awareness, then look at your human body.  A human is 50 trillion amoebas living in a community under your skin.  And, then 50 trillion amoebas means 50 trillion times the surface area of a single cell, and then you start to see, ah, animals and plants are communities of amoebas that resulted when the amoeba reached a certain size, couldn’t get bigger and then evolution jumped by making communities of amoebas.

Now why is that important?  And the answer is that in the case of humans, we are the finite level of a community of cells with super intelligence.  And, then I say what happened?  Well, a hundred thousand or more years ago the evolution of the human as an individual community was complete.  It got very intelligent.  Over a thousand years we’ve been involved with increasing the intelligence, but guess what, a human like a bacterium and amoeba reaches a finite size, can’t get any bigger, all the intelligence is in there.  And then you say well what’s next?  And, I say the same pattern that’s repeated through history, amoebas come together to make a human, humans come together to create a super organism called humanity.

And, if you look at the world right now, this is the evolutionary threshold we’re on.  We’re beginning to realize that people all over the world are part of one living organism, and that to understand the nature of our evolution, we have to start creating a community of super organisms of humans, and the new organism is called humanity.

So, this is why the barriers between countries are breaking down, the barriers between communities are breaking down, because basically, it says we have to stop fighting and competing with each other and start working in harmony with each other because the evolution is when seven billion humans come together to form this super organism. And, when we look at the world now is that there’s been separation of humans into states and nations, but now we’re going to have to see that to survive on this planet we’re going to have to work together as one, and that is the evolution of a new organism.

The Honeymoon Effect: When Did You Last Feel It?

I know that’s a long preamble but that was necessary to say.  If you look at the world right now and you see it’s in crisis and upheaval, recognize this: if we weren’t in crisis we’d be worse off because we’re already going into the 6^th mass extinction.  The only way to change that is to change civilization, and so when you see the upheaval of civilization, this is a necessary step to create the next higher level.  So, this is where we are.  We’re moving that way and then we have to understand the power of who we are as individuals.

And, over centuries, millennia, people have always heard from wisdom providers that yes we create the world we live in, we are creators and a lot of people look around and look at their lives and go, “I wouldn’t have created this.  I would’ve created something a little bit more pleasant and loving than this!”  So, we disown the nature of creativity.

Well this is why my new book The Honeymoon Effect becomes important because The Honeymoon Effect asks us to go back to a time in your life where you fell head over heels in love with somebody.  May not have lasted very long, may have lasted a week, a month, two months if you’re lucky, a year.

“If you understand how you created the honeymoon, and the reason why you lost the honeymoon, then think of the logic.  The logic is with that knowledge you’re empowered, for knowledge is power.  With that knowledge you are empowered to maintain a honeymoon experience every day of your life on this planet, every day you could have heaven on earth, and you did it for a period, but then you lost it.”

The honeymoon, what is the honeymoon?  I say go back to a time you fell in love and I ask three questions, and the three questions are when you were back in that state, were you healthy?  And, almost everybody goes yes I was exuberantly healthy.  Yes, when people are in love they glow.  There’s a reason for that and that’s in The Honeymoon Effect  book.  I also say when you go back to that time you fell in love, did you have a lot of energy in your life?  And, the answer is “of course” and everybody laughs because they know they made love for days without stopping for food or sleep and the energy was just all over the place.

And the third question is the most important question, go back to that time you fell in love and was life so beautiful at that time that you couldn’t wait for the next day to have more life?  That it was so beautiful that life, you just were welcoming it, opening up to it, saying “Yes, I want more of this love and all that stuff.”  Well, you created heaven on earth if you think about it.  In the depths of that love, life was so beautiful, this is where you wanted to be, this was it, this was everything.

So why is this important?  And, the answer is, as The Honeymoon Effect book talks about, this was not a coincidence or an accident.  This was a very personal creation.  You manifested heaven on earth.  But then comes the bigger issue.  It starts out of course as this beautiful, you know, vision of like love, islands, palm trees, beautiful calm water.  That’s the vision of love and that’s really great, but then I say, but what happens to the honeymoon?  And, the answer is over time, it starts to disappear and while you’re still in love with the person perhaps, the juiciness and excitement and the character and quality of life transitions into a regular life again.  It was heaven on earth and then it goes into regular life.

Well, here’s the important point about that.  Again, not a coincidence, not an accident, but an actual creation, and in this case, uncreating heaven and turning it back into regular life.  So why is all this important?  Because we create the honeymoon.  We’re also responsible for the loss of the honeymoon.  If you understand how you created the honeymoon, and the reason why you lost the honeymoon, then think of the logic.  The logic is with that knowledge you’re empowered, for knowledge is power.  With that knowledge you are empowered to maintain a honeymoon experience every day of your life on this planet, every day you could have heaven on earth, and you did it for a period, but then you lost it.

So, my basic understanding comes down to there are lots of insights about how we find people and all that in the book.  Let me just emphasize one point of the book and it has to do with this: the crux of the issue comes down to our mind.  Our mind is creating the world, but our mind actually has two subdivisions that we group together as one, and this has been in error because each part of the mind is actually an interdependent piece.  And the two parts of the mind are the conscious mind and the subconscious mind.

And, if I could go into, this is really what I want to do in the next few minutes, then you’ll understand the secret of life not just for honeymoons, but for every area of your life on how to create the beautiful life experiences that we are provided with, the opportunity to create that.

READ Part 2: Creating and Uncreating Your Life = Conscious and Unconscious Mind

• The Unconscious Mind: Nobody’s Home, “It’s simply a record playback device.”
• Who Am I?  “In the first seven years people tell you who you are and you record in a state of hypnosis.”

READ Part 3: The Honeymoon Effect: Operating from the Conscious Mind to Create Heaven on Earth

• The Move The Matrix: “It’s actually a documentary.”
• You Don’t Know If You Don’t Know: “If I don’t know how something works, how can I be guilty?”
• Women and Men: Cultural Programming Differences
• Reprogramming: “Reading self-help books doesn’t work.”
• Conscious Parenting: “The rule of the day to help us evolve from the mess we’re in.”